![]() ![]() My Oly jacket and pants, people would ask "where's your snowmobile?" Bulky. I'd have to go look at each comparable jacket to really break it down more. It comes down to features you like/prefer and what fits your figure too. Not as tailored a cut, different design concepts on each brand. The Oly kept me dry, but was physically bulkier than the other two. The Darien used coarser, larger zippers, and I didn't mind the feel of the unlined inner surface on my skin, (but some really dislike it). On the plus, it felt a little nicer on your bare skin, (arms), but on the negative side, it was constantly getting caught in the smaller, finer zippers on the Klim. On the plus side, no liner to get caught in the vent zippers, which meant I could un-zip and zip up while riding for under arm vents. The Darien does not have a liner, which can be a plus and a negative. I really liked the venting on the Darien. Zip up or un-zip to adjust to ambient temps and conditions w/o having to pack a rain set.Ĭlick to expand.To a degree, fit and function of the features. Thus the popularity of jackets with a goretex or similar membrane in the shell and venting. It's less than optimal for LD riding as you have to stop and put the rain liner on. I have an Olympia mesh jacket with that feature. Some liners can be worn under or over the jacket. Perhaps you're thinking more of Adventure Gear? Basically this means armor and vents with either a waterproof shell or a waterproof liner. Most serious dirt guys seem to not ride in the rain and wear jerseys over exo-armor with similar on the pants. True dirt gear would be more armored and that's a penalty in weight and comfort that not everyone is willing to make. Otherwise, put the wallet in a zip lock baggie for any pants pocket.Įdit - "work for dirt and pavement" Define that a bit more please. ![]() The inner chest pockets on the Darien and Klim jackets have kept my contents dry. Some Klim jackets come with a waterproof bag to clip to a pocket lanyard. And if you ask them, they get real cagey about why that is. Even Klim's outer pockets on a full Goretex jacket are not "waterproof". Oh, and "waterproof pockets" is a tricky one. Make sure you read carefully to see if they are "over pants" which will be sized to fit over clothing, or just rider pants worn over LDComfort or other under garments. But neither come with a 'warm' liner, so it's tough to keep jacket and pants under $1000 with both those brands. I prefer 3/4 length jackets, so the Darien and the Klim Latitude worked for me. I like full length zippers on pants legs. In terms of Goretex or similar, fully waterproof gear with venting and a removable 'warm' liner, there aren't a whole lot of options. Alpinestar, Rev-it and others are out there.ĭefine what you want, like 3/4 length or waist length, venting, water proof or water proof liner/exo shell and go sift thru the offerings. The Firstgear Kathmandu Jacket has been popular for a long time for good reasons. A bit lower price point, but still good gear. If i was riding in sub 30's, I always put the liner on as a separate unit, zipped it up, then put on the Darien.Ĭheck out Olympia & Firstgear stuff too. However, the single main zipper then allowed more cold/air bleed into the body than if you zipped the liner up itself and wore the Darien over it, zipped to itself. In practical use of the Darien, if you zipped the liner or heated liner in, it made it easier to remove both as a unit. And forget what ever controller comes offered with what ever you buy, get a Heat-Troller from Warm n Safe and use that instead. You don't have to turn it on to benefit from additional warmth and if you need it, you dial in some heat. Honestly, I think your 'Give warmth (w/o electric) til ~ 30F' point is subjective, and unrealistic. Now the second zipper is an option that must be checked when ordering to get it. Both the Stich fleece liner and my Gerbing heated jacket liner would zip in to my cira '02 Darien jacket. The older ones all came with both zippers. ![]()
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